This Nasty Exchange of Letters Followed
120910- E-Mail to Director Lessard re Rejection.
To: Marihuana Medical Access Program
Cc: Leona Aglukkaq Minister
of Health Aglukkaq.L@parl.gc.ca
Subject: Did you change the rules or
are you just sticking it to me?
Dear Director Lessard: Are you still Director there?
Ref: Renewal of
Authorization AP-BLB-03-B07511641-42-11-B
Today my application for
renewal of the above Authorization was returned as incomplete and advising a
Form A must accompany the Form R and Form E1 I submitted.
This is a perfect example of why
everyone who tries to contact the MMAD eventually gets disgusted and gives up
trying to get any answers. I just phoned the toll free number for MMAD and
asked if you were still the Director. I was advised that was confidential and
that I would have to be referred to someone who would call me back. Horseshit.
I’m not going to hang around waiting for a call that will in all probability
never come. That’s standard practice for calls re any problems with the
service.
We already went through this Form A
Requirement on my first renewal; unless you can advise of some rule change, a
Form A must be provided for a renewal only if there has been some change
in the information and condition previously provided. There have been
none with regard to the Authorization referenced above for which I am
requesting renewal.
There was no damned reason for the
refusal. Why was my application returned?
I very much would appreciate a rapid
response. My license is now expired and I need a renewal to buy pot from you
guys since you scared my designated grower into quitting.
If I am correct and no Form A
is required then please advise how to return my application to you on a no
charge basis. I’ve already wasted $15 sending it to you once and I don’t relish
spending another $15 as a result of an error by you lot.
If I am in error and a Form A
is required please advise so I can start finding a street source. I will not
spend another $20 for another MD signature and another $15 return mail. The
license isn’t worth that much without a legal source and unfortunately you’re
the only legal source now available to me now.
In anticipation of your
response
Regards:
Blaine Barrett
120911- Reply from Client Services
Dear Mr. Barrett,
I am writing to inform you that the Marihuana
Medical Access Program (Program) has received your request for information
related to your file, however, we are unable to proceed with a reply as there
is insufficient information provided in your email to ensure we are
communicating with the correct client. In order to ensure the protection of
personal information submitted to the MMAP we require some additional
information. If you desire a written response please reply with the following information:
1. Your full name (First, last and middle)
2. Your mailing address
3. Your telephone number
4. Your date of birth
Once the requested information is received, a program officer will review your file and respond accordingly.
Regards,
Client Services
Bureau of Medical Cannabis
Health Canada
Bureau of Medical Cannabis
Health Canada
120912- Reply to
Client Services
Well, Well,
Well!
Good
morning Client Services:
Better yet!
Scream that like “Good Morning, Vietnam!”
Its wartime
This is
exactly the sort of unnecessary bullshit delay tactic that that has completely
destroyed any belief I had that the MMAD might ever get straightened out.
Why are you
subordinates answering my e-mail?
I addressed
it to Director Lessard and unless he’s been replaced as Director this is
between the two of us (or his replacement). We are familiar adversaries from
the jerking around I got last year when my early request for renewal of my
licence was denied. That bureaucratic hair splitting cost me another 3 months
wait for renewal. It also resulted in a delay in the renewal of my Designated
Grower Application and buggered up that relationship. I now have no legal
supply of pot.
As far as
your reply goes: all the information you requested was already in your files if
you had taken the trouble to punch in the Authorization Number provided in the
introduction to my e-mail i.e.
Ref: Renewal of Authorization
AP-BLB-03-B07511641-42-11-B
You requested
If you desire a
written response please reply with the following information:
1. Your full name (First, last and middle)
2. Your mailing address
3. Your telephone number
4. Your date of birth
1. Your full name (First, last and middle)
2. Your mailing address
3. Your telephone number
4. Your date of birth
Once the requested
information is received, a program officer will review your file and respond
accordingly.
Re 1-4:
Blaine
LeRoy Barrett aka The Smee Goan Guy
255,
XXXXX-149St.
Surrey, BC V3R 3Z8
604-585-XXXX
March 1, 1942
You will do
as you will do. Review to another flunky is just more delay.
I have the
rejection sheet showing that Form R and Form E1 are OK and the lack of a Form A
is cited as the reason for rejection.
All I want
is an answer to two simple questions:
Is a Form A is required to accompany
a Form R, where can I find confirmation?
I don’t
give a damn who responds but I want an answer to that question and I don’t want
to two weeks from now
If there is
no such requirement please advise instructions as to how to get the Application
back to you without another $15 mail charge. It’s your screw up and I’m not
going to pay for its correction.
Regards
Blaine Barrett
120917- Reply from Client Services
Dear Mr. Barrett,
We are writing in response to your emails of September 10, 2012, and September 12, 2012, regarding your application to renew your authorization to possess marihuana for medical purposes.
Form A “Application for Authorization to Possess Marihuana for Medical Purposes”, is required when an authorization to possess and/or a licence to produce is renewed and there are changes to personal information (i.e., address, name) or changes to production/supply source (i.e., source of supply, production location, delivery options).
Since you would like to renew your authorization to possess with a change to your source of supply, a complete Form A, indicating your new source of supply is required along with Form R “Renewal” and Form E1 “Application to Obtain Dried Marihuana”.
It is Health Canada’s policy to return all incomplete applications to applicants along with instructions for resubmission. Applicants are responsible for covering the costs associated with sending mail.
Furthermore, it is the policy of the Marihuana Medical Access Program (Program) to confirm the identity of clients who are seeking information pertaining to their files via telephone and email.
Please note that our service standard for responding to incoming correspondence is 5 business days.
Finally, please note that the Director of the Program is now Mr. Louis Proulx; however, all Program clients seeking information about their applications and files must contact the Program directly.
Regards,
Client Services
Bureau of Medical Cannabis
Health Canada
We are writing in response to your emails of September 10, 2012, and September 12, 2012, regarding your application to renew your authorization to possess marihuana for medical purposes.
Form A “Application for Authorization to Possess Marihuana for Medical Purposes”, is required when an authorization to possess and/or a licence to produce is renewed and there are changes to personal information (i.e., address, name) or changes to production/supply source (i.e., source of supply, production location, delivery options).
Since you would like to renew your authorization to possess with a change to your source of supply, a complete Form A, indicating your new source of supply is required along with Form R “Renewal” and Form E1 “Application to Obtain Dried Marihuana”.
It is Health Canada’s policy to return all incomplete applications to applicants along with instructions for resubmission. Applicants are responsible for covering the costs associated with sending mail.
Furthermore, it is the policy of the Marihuana Medical Access Program (Program) to confirm the identity of clients who are seeking information pertaining to their files via telephone and email.
Please note that our service standard for responding to incoming correspondence is 5 business days.
Finally, please note that the Director of the Program is now Mr. Louis Proulx; however, all Program clients seeking information about their applications and files must contact the Program directly.
Regards,
Client Services
Bureau of Medical Cannabis
Health Canada
120918- Abandon the
License.
Dear Client
Services
Cc:
Director Louis Proulx
Ref: Renewal of Authorization
AP-BLB-03-B07511641-42-11-B
Thank you
for advising me that Mr. Lessard has abandoned ship. Please extend my
condolences re his PTSD. It happens when you’re the Front man for an
ineffective operation subject to the misdirection of an incompetent
Administration.
Regards to
you Mr. Proulx:
Please note
that I have no intention of changing my target for complaint. All my future communications
to the MMAP director will be to your attention, copied to the Minister and
Deputy Minister and if I so choose published in my Blog “Medical Marijuana with
TheSmeeGoanGuy. The only problem in dealing with Client Services is no-one will
accept responsibility for anything. All staff are anonymous voices or
unidentified respondents. In short I’m simply telling the bosses what you lot
are doing to all outside contacts requesting help. More of that secrecy crap.
To Client
Services:
I will not
resubmit my Application. I am not going to fork over more money for more
bureaucratic bullshit and delay. The goddamn license at this point is only
useful to buy pot from YOU alone. My designated grower is gone and now you want
me to spend another $20 for another Physician signature and $15 Expresspost. I
would also have to spend another $15 for Photographs even though they are not
required because you already have them on file. With MMAD’s superficial
slapdash handling of details I fear that as soon as some clerk opens the
Application and notes that photographs
are missing from my Form A, the whole pack will be rejected as
incomplete and returned to me again for another delay. It’s a conditioned
reflex. For Christ’s sake: to think that someone in your operation would check
files for missing information is stupid.
My first
renewal was rejected because of a change of Doctor: Specialist to GP.
As a
classic example, last year my application was returned to me for the stupid
reason that some jerk in your office would not accept my Doctor’s signature as
valid. Fools! You assholes cost me more money for what should have been solved
with a 2 minute phone call to my doctor, but something as efficient as that
would never occur to you jerks. That cost $30 I couldn’t afford.
Mickey
Mouse attention to Mickey Mouse details: that characterizes the whole MMAD
operation. You state that your standard response time for information is 5
days. That is crap coming from an outfit that is supposed to have a standard
processing time for applications in weeks that in reality actually takes
months. Maybe it will dawn on you that your work load would decrease and
postage decrease if only you used common sense. Every time you reject an
application for a minor non-consequential error or omission you simply get it
back again for a second load of work.
I don’t
need any more aggravation. Considering the actual utility a License renewal
would be: you can forget it. I already have a card and even expired
it’s all I need. If I show it to a Cop, it establishes my need for medication
and reduces the probability of anything but a civil discussion of how fucked up
Medical Marijuana has become.
I hope I
never have to communicate with you again but just to keep you informed of what
trouble you’ve caused, I’ve signed you up as a follower. Enjoy my blog; Every
Post in your Mail automatically.
I love
e-mail. The world at my fingertips with Send.
Blaine Barrett
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